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Hi Drmies, hope you're doing well. In terms of Sudsahab's unblock request, I would highly implore (I hope I'm using the word correctly?) you to take a look at this first [1]. There's much more going on than meets the eye, I'm afraid if nothing is done, the Discord group will have a monopoly over Indian-related articles. Heck, they already kinda have. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:04, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again Drmies. If it's not too much to ask, would you be willing to look into my ANI report of the Discord group? It has been up for almost a month. And those are not even all the users listed, they probably number up in the 100s. --HistoryofIran (talk) 12:41, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Srimonbanik2007

I was considering blocking ਰਾਜ ਪਾਲ as a sock, and I noticed that you just recently confirmed Gundaraaj. Obviously, you didn't uncover ਰਾਜ ਪਾਲ in your check, but I'm not sure how many ranges this farm uses. ਰਾਜ ਪਾਲ edits the same election pages (compared to a different sock) and is fairly prolific quickly as have been many previous socks. Can you check?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:01, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hmm I just got done blocking Balgangadhar too. OK, I see the overlap, and the geolocation is not impossible. The UA is different but they may have been on the road--but they made their edits consistently over one single range so I don't think that's it either. I think you're dealing with someone who also has an interest in general national elections, but not in other matters that are so important to the sockmaster. However, the caveat is two-fold: I haven't had coffee yet and I'm not intimately acquainted with the habits of this one. Drmies (talk) 13:09, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's interesting. Izno, who is no longer a CU, confirmed Happyjit Singh, although if you look at the sequence of events in a discussion Izno had with Ponyo in the archive, it's not your usual confirmation. I bring this up because Happyjit, unlike "your" recent confirmed socks, did not use the mobile platform, and neither does ਰਾਜ ਪਾਲ. Still, unless there's some illumination of these technical quirks, I'm not going to block ਰਾਜ ਪਾਲ based on your technical and behavioral comments. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:21, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Bbb23 I'm about to do my morning exercises (!)--how about this, 70.54.75.24 ? Drmies (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • One, two, three, four, two, two, three, four, up, down ... How conscientious of you! Do you listen to rap while exorcising those middle-aged demons?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Look, it's for old people, and usually we count down to how many more painful squats and stuff. Drmies (talk) 15:58, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Another user just filed a report on ਰਾਜ ਪਾਲ.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:34, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • Hello you two. The SPI has been updated.-- Ponyobons mots 16:14, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
          • OK Ponyo--I see. I should just make a habit of checking ranges, really. I think I didn't because in that long list of IPs there was only one with "multiples", and that was not one with another sock; I figured that a prolific sock wouldn't show such a long list of "single" IPs. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 16:27, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
            • (edit conflict) When there are so many ranges it seems like a fruitless time-wasting chore running checks on all of them. In this case, I only checked a single targeted range that I knew had overlap with one specific Srimonbanik2007 sock and got lucky.-- Ponyobons mots 17:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
            • Great, in honor of my "vindication", I will celebrate by creating a much more rewarding exercise program for your consideration. First, pick a restaurant you love, especially if the menu has mostly rich dishes. Second, if needed, make a reservation at the restaurant while doing jumping jacks. Third, walk briskly to the restaurant if it is within a mile of your home; if not, drive to about a mile from the restaurant before walking the final mile. Fourth, order as much food as possible and eat as quickly as possible (not a good idea for the brain to get a chance to react before you're done enjoying your feast - this shouldn't be too hard because the brain slows down after un certain âge). Finally, pay for the meal with a large tip (I find paying for meals burns a lot of calories, YMMV). It may take a while for this proven dietary system to work. I recommend continuing the system until it works or you find you can't move at all. Bon courage and bon appétit! --Bbb23 (talk) 17:20, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
              • Sorry Bbb couldn't hear you, was munching on M&Ms. Drmies (talk) 17:25, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
                • Generally, I'm a snob and only like high-class pastries, but I have a weakness for M&Ms, better M&M peanuts, best M&M almonds. Very healthy.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:34, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
                  @Bbb23 You ever tried the crunchy or brownie M&M's? Put me in heaven for those... they're my favorite. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 18:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
                Have you tried bench pressing at the gym? I know it increases weight, but my brother does it and he's really improved his eating. I remember he used to grab handful upon handfuls of chips every time we would eat and put three scoops of ice cream. Now he's not eating as much. He's pressing 250, and seeing him flex his muscles just make me feel a little sick to my stomach. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 17:31, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
                @NoobThreePointOh Chips (or crisps, come to that) with three scoops of ice-cream added also induce feelings of nausea. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 09:05, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
                @Timtrent Blegh. Now THAT is a weird combination. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 10:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
                @NoobThreePointOh But your friend did that, ^^^^^^ 🤡 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 11:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is sad the scammers cause so much collateral damage

Thank you for your thoughtful handling of the victim's username block. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 15:59, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • No, thank you: I'm really the bad guy here, placing the second block, but I felt like it had to be handled now. You're the one pouring oil on the water and I appreciate it. Yes, we've both seen it: people pay good money (albeit not with the best of intentions) and they get shafted by these con men. Drmies (talk) 16:01, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I am pretty certain we will see the scammer pop up again as a sock. I'm unsure how to detect that, though. Your admin goggles may see sufficiently well to do that. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 16:12, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • That's possible, but not yet: you prompted me to have a look, but the IPs they're on have not been active. It is prime UPE territory, that's a fact. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:19, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        Well, they have a new user name, as I am sure you can see should you choose. They failed to do that well, and thus remain blocked. I just fired the big gun of "For heavens sake behave properly" at them since they almost listen to me. Militant kindness may yet win the day! 😈😇 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 08:23, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ARBPIA welcome

I noticed your welcome here, and wanted to let you know that I put together {{welcome-arbpia}} for just such a circumstance. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not greedy, I don't need another whole section

Thanks for picking up my slack. I've been too busy to look back into this, and as seems to happen pretty much every time I extend some good faith and try to help, it didn't work. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:56, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sock; check out

1. User:MaartenEdieg who joined in less than a day, created a talk page reading WenguiGuo#WashingtonFarm The Kwok scam only pits the ants Guo Wengui touted things to the sky all day long, from farms to Xi Yuan, he declared, "Xi Yuan's encryption capabilities and future payments, as well as the future exchange with the US dollar, will create history, is the only stablecoin, floating, modern crypto financial platform." The ant help to fool the head, but after dozens of broken promises.... These are the diffs [2] and was blanked here. 2. User:LigonJudd who joined almost the same time did the same here, and after a welcome message blanked the talk page as usual. To show they aren't here to build an Encyclopedia, they recreated it on same TP here until they got a warning by Viewmont Viking here. After the warning, they blanked it again. This same user created a sandbox here of same content. 3. There comes User:ColbyIjazvHtE who joined at same time with the rest and created this sandbox with the same content.Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:57, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • As if this Wikipedia session wasn't already weird enough. Thanks; I got them. Drmies (talk) 19:22, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Aight. Thanks for taking care of that, I know I could rely on you. But taken a look at this. It's unfair that I came to de-orphan, and you've taken the bull already. 😂 Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:56, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • I did that to mess with you. No, I'm joking--we get paid for blocks, not for de-orphaning. Drmies (talk) 00:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • Take care and if you feel bored in "blocking", you may join the holy work of de-orphaning. The backlog is really high. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 01:01, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warrior at Society for Occupational Health Psychology

What to do about it? Look in talk and edit history. They're unwilling to accept consensus, wouldn't start their own RFC, and just continue to edit war outside 3RR. Graywalls (talk) 12:00, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • That's an amazing record of disruption--with that long list of warnings from a half dozen editors on their talk page. I blocked for a bit, in part because they seem to be doing that on many articles, but a longer partial block from that article is an option too. Drmies (talk) 15:53, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

LTA trolling, etc.

Hi doc. Long time, no see. Hope all is well. We got this account KockMasterM. Their only two edits are reverts of my edits using false edit summaries. Looks like LTA trolling. Reported at UAA but just in case. Thanks. Dr. K. 13:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Re: User talk:82.16.81.82

I just wanted to reach out and explain my reasoning for ARV for the user, I know I only linked that one comment, but that was actually their second comment as such (first comment linked HERE). I fully support giving them a third chance, but I did just want to make you aware that this was not their first time, and they were vandalising Nonetheless and Pet Shop Boys prior to the comments. Again I support the third chance, I did just want to make you aware of the prior trolling that went unreported. Nigel757 (talk) 18:42, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

USER:SteveBenassi may have returned.

A new IP (that also geolocates to the same region as the last IP sock) is making POV edits at Genetic studies of Jews. When I reverted them, they reinstated their edit with some very inflammatory and hostile language in their edit note. See: [3] Skllagyook (talk) 23:12, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A peculiar one.

Please look at Special:Contributions/Pradeepsethi.in the AfD they started and my comment on their talk page. I find the scent of fish all over it, and would appreciate either your action or your guidance. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 19:53, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Yeah, there's all kinds of things wrong with that. I closed that AfD: that was so improper that any discussion would have been tainted. Drmies (talk) 20:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you. That makes sense. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 21:18, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Looking at the article in its current state it is vulnerable to deletionThat may be no bad thing, but I wood nit like to see the poor nominator's wishes fulfilled so simply. I think I will ignore it when it is nominated, though I have strong concerns about that nominator. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 21:24, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • You kind of wonder what was happening between client and agent. I think the agent was just not competent enough to deal with it in a way that would satisfy the client without setting off alarm bells. Oh, wait, I had looked at the beginning of the history and the end, but didn't see this, and going back I now see this: look quick before I revdelete a whole bunch from that history. User:Timtrent pinging you so you can look quickly. ;) Drmies (talk) 22:35, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • Blimey! I wonder if we are speaking about a closet. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:37, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
          • OK, now I can revdelete the hell out of that. It's clearly a social media-generated attack on a public person in a country where way too many people hate gays. Very sad. Drmies (talk) 22:42, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
            • Well, we all have to live with people who hate people. It seems to me that semi-protection is the way to go. Though that does make me think of a condom packet with a pinhole through it. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:46, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May music

story · music · places

Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear (DYK) and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old (OTD). -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

29 May 1913: The Rite of Spring - today's story, actually something I saw at that place in a revival (last century). - Look at Graham's page for the real thing yesterday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wut?

UTRS appeal #89010 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:52, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SteveBenassi yet again

I'm sorry to keep bothering you about this. Yet another IP, also from Minnesota, has added one of the same sources previously pushed by USER:SteveBenassi to the Genetic studies of Jews page, here [4]. I reverted them but I expect them to likely edit war, possibly with uncivil responses. This user really is determined to push his pov. It's getting very brazen. I'm not sure what to do. Skllagyook (talk) 12:32, 24 May 2024 (UTC) Unsurprisingly, they reinstated their edit, here [[5]]. Skllagyook (talk) 13:22, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted their edit, but I expect that they'll undo mine and add it back (sigh). NoobThreePointOh (talk) 14:13, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:NoobThreePointOh They (under another Minnesota IP) did indeed revert you just now (here [6]) with (as is typical of SteveBenassi) some uncivil, hostile, and accusatory language directed at me in the summary. Skllagyook (talk) 14:22, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Of course they did it (clap clap for them). Oh well, I hope some admin comes to the rescue. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 15:17, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your hope has come true. Sorry, Skllagyook, for the abuse you've been enduring. Drmies (talk) 16:37, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Drmies for stepping into the rescue. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 16:46, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Skllagyook (talk) 20:30, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please look at these two

I doubt there is a need for an SPI, but there is odd behaviour.

Each states that the other is their alternate account. Each identity tag teams the other in editing, though edits in tranches from what I have seen. I have not checked (eg) deletion discussions. I see every reason to believe that they are telling the truth, but I see no justification in WP:VALIDALT for this usage of an alternate account. I may have missed something, though 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 18:23, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for tracking this down. The "no access to laptop" excuse doesn't wash, didn't wash from day one, but it appears to be naivety, not malicious intent. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 06:27, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Brill book

Uhm, I don't want to be spoilsport for my own (and JT's) case, but actually, the work in question is available online[7]. But don't worry, I have more evidence up my sleeve (and already shared it in private with JT) if needed. I just don't want to publically give away all the characteristics that they will subsequently avoid when they read their own SPI case history. Austronesier (talk) 10:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ha, OK, that's awesome BTW--but it's also very odd. That's a Sealang website, not the Brill website (they do have e-books, including mine (haha yes, facts) but I don't think they look like that); what the user is citing is the book. Maybe we just told them what to do but it doesn't really matter. Yes, keep the rest off-wiki. If need be, if there's ever an admin interested in that unblock request (for the TPS, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Eiskrahablo, we'll find a way to inform them. Drmies (talk) 16:24, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

I copied you on an email exchange I've been having. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:12, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oh that was you--I understand the sign-off now, but this was all very mysterious to me. I also couldn't tell who the accuser was, and there was no specific evidence. Sounds like a master plan at work, or an overactive imagination. Drmies (talk) 15:02, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I haven't heard from them since the last message. I got the feeling they were hoping I'd just block somebody on a few or no questions asked basis. Not sure I will even hear from them again, but if I do, I will expect evidence and their username. Otherwise, I'm moving on. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:16, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Well, they sent me a message which I copied to you along with my reply. They are being very cagey about their own identity which is making me suspicious. Still, they included a bunch of diffs. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • I saw it. I remembered that CU has been run on the one editor, with no result, and the log confirms that, but that was in 2019. I'm not going to do anything until the user explains who they are and until there's a bit more than a list of times. Drmies (talk) 21:33, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
          I'm going to away for the next few days, so I will be mostly offline until this weekend. (If the former guy is convicted you have my proxy to vote for posting the blurb at ITNC.) -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't even know what to make of this

I was going to tag this one under U5 but honestly I don't even know what to make of it. User:Alexa6ray93/sandbox TornadoLGS (talk) 02:41, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ha, I threw in a few more. Thanks--we can't have that kind of stuff. Drmies (talk) 02:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looked around and the person has some modest fame on account of the news covering their arrest. TornadoLGS (talk) 03:00, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page protection

Hi Drmies, could you protect the Jason Momoa article? An IP hopping vandal has continued to make unsubstantiated claims regarding the actor's relationship status.-KH-1 (talk) 02:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Raegan Revord

Why did you delete the draft? The only reason to delete the draft is when the page is published. We are talking about the biography of a leading actress in a high-profile multi-season TV series. Please reinstate the draft, or even better, publish the page. Marbe166 (talk) 06:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I saw that on my watchlist, and was a little surprised since I assumed several editors including myself had spent time on editing it, though I don't know who the blocked or banned users are supposed to be. I'm not saying it's at WP:N at this point. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:41, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Gråbergs Gråa Sång, it was re-created by a user who is now blocked (that's one of the incarnations you worked on), but I see now that I interpreted G5 too liberally and I'll restore it. The very first creator, BTW, is also blocked, and one of the most recent editors, User:Prince6191, is also a sock. To top it all of it's literally just been recreated and I need to look into that. Drmies (talk) 12:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • You may wish to restore the Talk page for it as well, if only to keep us from having to utterly restart the conversations about why the subject does not meet WP:NACTOR. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 13:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yep, please restore the talkpage too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:45, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Done. Thanks for the reminder--hadn't had coffee yet. Drmies (talk) 14:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Gråbergs Gråa Sång, that draft doesn't look half-bad. Why not just move it into mainspace? It's not promotional, it has sourcing--we let many more articles with much less notability through. Oh, the socks--the biggest thing in there was this one, but the first creation was by this, and there was a sock in between that threw me off track towards deletion. Thanks again for the correction. Drmies (talk) 16:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        Long discussion on that at talkpage. It's debatable if the sources amount to GNG, some are sort of BLP-crappy, and one significant role doesn't make a NARTIST, apparently. Also, when the submittings started, draft was much worse, which may have built up some resistance in the WP hivemind over time. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        A resistance which is completely unfounded. There are no reasons that the article should not be published, some admins are taking a waaay to harsh stand in this case. Marbe166 (talk) 12:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        Which would indicate there are reasons. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As you were just looking at the socks involved and have a better sense of that, you may want to take a look at the new editor whose sole contributions have been a vast rewrite of the article and submitting it. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 05:23, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
New editors, plural.... or at least plural accounts. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 14:48, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: Draft: Sharma Boy

It is fine, there is no need to be sorry! I only said he may be notable, not that he was :) -- NotCharizard 🗨 13:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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