Talk:National Security Act, 2024

Where does this title come from?[edit]

The phrase "National Security Act" does not appear anywhere in the adopted text of H.R.815 (other than in "National Security Act of 1947" which appears 8 times). It's not the title of the bill that was passed by Congress and signed into law. Where does this come from? Perhaps it was the title prior to amendment? This just doesn't seem right at all. jhawkinson (talk) 10:11, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're right about that. The adopted text only ever refers to the legislation of H.R.815 under its long title. However, it appears that the name "National Security Act, 2024" derives from the Senate amendment passed as part of the supplemental appropriations legislation, with "National Security Act, 2024" listed as a short title, while the similarly named "National Security Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2024" is the title of Division A of the aformentioned Senate amendment (not equivalent to Division A in the final bill). Additionally, "National Security Act, 2024" is also listed as the title in the summary of the bill, which was authored by the Congressional Research Service (searching here on their website redirects users to the aforementioned bill summary where the title is listed). However, neither titles are listed anywhere in the final bill that became law. Hope this clears things up! :)RedMethyst (talk) 15:38, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Red Shogun412 I'm afraid your reply just raises the obvious question: how is the title appropriate? The title of a wikipedia article about a piece of legislation should not be based on things that are not in the final law. (Also, you've set your signature to be text different from your username, which makes replying to you and using templates that automatically ping you a little confusing. Maybe not a great idea?) Thanks. jhawkinson (talk) 17:18, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 27 May 2024[edit]

It has been proposed in this section that National Security Act, 2024 be renamed and moved to Public Law 118-50.

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National Security Act, 2024 → Public Law 118-50 – As noted in the prior talk discussion, "National Security Act" is a draft name that may have appeared in an earlier version, but does not appear in the final text of the law[*], so it cannot be the title of this page. It's difficult to discern what the best title is, given that the bill that became law (H.R. 815)'s actual long title is "Making emergency supplemental appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2024, and for other purposes." which doesn't feel right for a wikipedia article, nor do shortened variants of it ("Emergency supplemental appropriations for 2024," &c.). There is some precedent for using the law numbers in these cases, e.g. Public Law 114-216 (and many others). Another step would be to delete this article entirely (why does it need to exist?), or perhaps to propose a inversion of the pending proposed (and unanimously opposed) merger with Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act. Of all those choices, going with a renaming to "Public Law 118-50" feels the least controversial.

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[*]: Well, we're still waiting for GPO to publish the final text of the law, but it's not in the final text of the final bill that became law, which should be close enough. jhawkinson (talk) 18:57, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]